First of all my own, written on Oct. 5th and 6th and not updated in the light of other people's comments. It contains a sort of counter-/compromise proposal. ============================== > I am not sure if we are supposed to open the discussion or wait for the > publication -- the manuscript is, after all, already in review. However, > if the former is the case... > > Preamble, item 1: I agree with the proposal. > > Art. 1.1: > Current: "The groups of organisms whose names are governed by this code > are called taxa (singular: taxon). Taxa may be clades or species, but > only clade names are governed by this code." > Proposal: "The groups of organisms whose names are governed by this code > are called taxa (singular: taxon). Only clade names are governed by this > code." > Why mention taxa at all, when all taxa governed by the PhyloCode are > clades? I would like to suggest the following: "This code governs the > names of clades of organisms." We could then merge this article with > Art. 2.1 if we think a one-sentence article is too short. :-) > > Art. 2.1: I agree with the proposal, though I like Keesey's "ancestral > set" even better. > > Art. 2.2, Note 3.1.1: I agree with the proposal. > > Art. 9.4 and 11, and Note 13.2.2: I disagree with the proposal. This is > because some well-known extant species that were named long ago, like > *Crocodylus niloticus*, do not have a type specimen at all, and they > will only be given one if doubts about their monophyly will ever come > up. I don't see why such species should be disallowed as specifiers. I > also like the current situation in which a specifier can change when the > type specimen of the species that is actually meant changes (because a > lectotype is selected from a series of syntypes, or because a neotype is > designated -- disclaimer: I have not tried to find out if the ICBN uses > these terms in the same ways as the ICZN, if at all). If PhyloCode users > had to select a specimen that belongs to such a species as a specifier, > this would, in practice, probably amount to de facto selecting a type > specimen under the rank-based code in question; I don't think that's a > good thing. > > Art. 9.5: I agree with the proposal. > > Art. 9.7: Unnamed subclades will likely be indicated, in many cases, by > lists of included species, so I don't think the proposal would change > much. > > Rec. 9c: I agree with the proposal, though "organisms" would be better > than "specimens" (a museum specimen can consist of several organisms). > > Art. 10.5: I agree with the proposal. > > Art. 10.9: This is a tricky one. > 1) Specific epithets are (usually) not unique, so converting one > *vulgaris* or *mongoliensis* will prevent all others from being > converted in that shape. > 2) Converting an epithet will, in practice, lead to defining the species > with that name even for users of the rank-based codes. And that amounts > to imposing one species concept on everyone. I do not like that at all. > 3) I admit that I have dinosaur privilege. Among Mesozoic and older > vertebrates, the number of genera with more than one species is > negligible, so that most LITUs already have a uninominal which already > looks like a clade name and is already unique (except for intercode > homonyms like the archosaur and flowering plant *Galtonia*). This is > because most species concepts are not even applicable, so that species > are only named at all because the ICZN requires it and because it allows > authors to honor more colleagues than otherwise. I understand this is > very different from the situation most neontologists find themselves in. > > Art. 13, general proposal: I disagree. This proposal would require > biologists to learn not just the names of the taxa they work on, but > also the authors and year of each of these names. On average, that's > perhaps a fivefold increase of effort (many taxon names have more than > one author, I know some with 13 and 19). Further, it will increase > vanity among authors of clade names; clades should be named to make > talking about them easier, not to make oneself immortal. > > Art. 13.1, 13.3 and 13.5, and Note 13.2.3: These proposals almost define > homonyms out of existence and therefore, again, require that biologists > learn all relevant authors and years. I do not like that prospect at all > -- and I am rather unusually good at remembering numbers! > > Art. 21: I agree with the idea of removing the implication that there is > such a thing as a species name under the PhyloCode (which is clearest in > Art. 21.5 and 21.2). However, Art. 21 contains more than that; therefore > I do not agree with the proposal to abolish it in its entirety. > 1) At a minimum, the current Art. 21.4 with Rec. 21.4A and B (and all > their notes and examples) should be kept, because they recommend how to > go about naming species without having to take actions incompatible with > the PhyloCode and without causing confusion when two systems of > nomenclature are used in the same publication. > 2) Rec. 21.4C is a different matter; it recommends Kevin de Queiroz's > species concept. I think it should be replaced by a Recommendation which > urges authors of species names to state which species concept they have > in mind and to provide evidence that their new species is in fact a new > species under that concept -- this touches on the PhyloCode because some > species concepts (like the one by Baum 2009) require species to be > clades. > 3) Completely independently of the proposal, Art. 21.3 should not be an > Article. It consists of a note (the statement that, because of Art. 3.1, > the PhyloCode does not govern names at subspecific and lower ranks) and > a recommendation ("their use to refer to [...] is discouraged"). If > kept, they should be made a Note and a Recommendation. > 4) Art. 21.5 and Rec. 21A are pretty much identical. If kept, they > should be merged into a Recommendation. > > Thus, I would like to submit my own proposal for amending Art. 21 in the > next e-mail (this one is long enough). ...which is the following: > The entire text of what the amended Art. 21 would look like follows: > > ============================== > > 21.1. This code does not govern the establishment or precedence of > species, subspecies or variety[*] names. To be considered available > (ICZN) or validly published (ICBN, ICNB), a (new or replacement) name > for a species, subspecies or variety must satisfy the provisions of the > appropriate rank-based code (e.g., ICNB, ICBN, ICZN). This article > contains recommendations on how to avoid confusion when performing > nomenclatural acts concerning species, subspecies or varieties in > publications that use clade names in ways that conform to this code. > > [* Question: is this an exhaustive list? The ICZN and the ICNB recognize > only the rank of subspecies below that of species; varieties, used in > botany, are explicitly forbidden in zoology and bacteriology.] > > [current Note 21.1.1 deleted] > > Note 21.1.1. In any particular classification, a species, subspecies or > variety may be identical in content to a clade, and a clade may be > assigned the rank of species. In such cases, intercode synonymy may > occur between this code and a rank-based one, because names governed by > this code have a different form from species, subspecies or variety > names governed by the ICNB, ICBN or ICZN. However, such redundancy is > likely to be limited: assigning a rank to a clade name governed by this > code is not a nomenclatural act, and the rank-based codes do not > recognize the adoption of any species concept as a nomenclatural act -- > under most species concepts, species need not be clades. This situation > is similar to monospecific genera under the rank-based codes (cases > where a genus and its type species are identical in content in a > particular classification). > > [current Art. 21.2 and 21.3 deleted] > > Rec. 21A [currently Art. 21.4 and Rec. 21.4B]. To satisfy the > requirements of the rank-based codes, a name implicitly or explicitly > associated with the rank of genus must be used when establishing a new > or replacement name for a species, subspecies or variety. For names > governed by the ICZN, this practice must be followed throughout the > publication that establishes the name (ICZN article 11.4 > http://www.nhm.ac.uk/hosted-sites/iczn/code/includes/page.jsp?article=11&nfv=#4 > > ). When choosing a generic name, authors should consider the > nomenclatural consequences under both the appropriate rank-based code > and this code. In general, a generic name[*] that is also an established > clade name (Example 1), or is simultaneously being established as a > clade name (Examples 2, 3), should be selected if possible. Otherwise, > an existing generic name[*] may be used, even if the monophyly of the > taxon associated with it is unknown or doubtful (Examples 3, 4). If the > species to be named cannot be assigned to any taxon with which a generic > name[*] has been associated under the appropriate rank-based code, the > only option is to publish a new name to serve as a generic name under > that code (Examples 4, 5, 6). This name may be simultaneously > established as a clade name under this code (Example 5). > > [* Rec. 21.4B currently says "a generic name (ICNB, ICBN) or genus-group > name (ICZN)". This is wrong. Under the ICZN, the name of a species must > contain the name of a genus; it is not allowed to use the name of a > subgenus instead -- a subgeneric name may only be used in addition. Of > course, it is allowed to promote a subgenus to genus rank, but this is a > nomenclatural act separate from the naming of a new species.] > > [No changes to the Examples, except that Example 4 contains an instance > of *Hypotheticus* that is not italicized.] > > Rec. 21B [currently Rec. 21.4A and Rec. 21.5A]. When establishing a new > or replacement name for a species, subspecies or variety under the > appropriate rank-based code, some mechanism should be used to indicate > whether the generic name is an established clade name under this code. > If symbols are used, their meaning should be made clear. > > [No changes to the Examples, except to replace "prenomen" with "generic > name" throughout.] > > Rec. 21C [replaces current Rec. 21.4C]. When establishing a new species > name under the appropriate rank-based code, the protologue should state > which species concept the authors have in mind, and it should include a > description of the evidence indicating that the new species fulfills > that concept, even though the rank-based codes have no such requirements > or recommendations. > > [current Art. 21.5 and Rec. 21A deleted]
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