I am also fine with the proposal, and with much of what David proposes to change, with one exception: I don't know if it is a good idea to introduce recommendations about species names (i.e. requesting that authors state which species concept they use) in a code like ours that does not rule species names. Seems incoherent. The rank-based codes would be the proper place to introduce these changes (but I realize that they probably won't do that, not anytime soon anyway). Cheers, Michel On 17/03/13 00:04, David Marjanovic wrote: > I'm fine with most of the proposal; much of it is identical to my > proposal from May 12th (yes, it's been a long time), and some of it is > probably better (e. g. I proposed to work Note 21.1.1 into Art. 21.1, > the new proposal just deletes it, and I agree with the reason stated there). > > However... > > First, the big one: the proposal still talks about "infraspecific names" > without taking into account that, once the PhyloCode is implemented, > there may be two kinds of such names: rank-based ones, and > PhyloCode-governed ones that have either been assigned subspecies rank > or that happen to designate a clade that lies within a species. Only the > former are intended, but both are implied. For this reason (though I > failed to make _that_ clear), I proposed a new Note: > > "Note 21.1.1. In any particular classification, a species or > infraspecific taxon may be identical in content to a clade, and a clade > may be assigned the rank of species or that of an infraspecific > category. In such cases, intercode synonymy may occur between this code > and a rank-based one, because names governed by this code have a > different form from specific or infraspecific names governed by the > ICNP, ICN or ICZN. However, such redundancy is likely to be limited: > assigning a rank to a clade name is not a nomenclatural act under this > code, and the rank-based codes do not recognize the adoption of any > species concept as a nomenclatural act -- under most species concepts, > species need not be clades. This situation is similar to monospecific > genera under the rank-based codes (cases where a genus and its type > species are identical in content in a particular classification)." > > In this, "a species or infraspecific taxon" in the first sentence should > rather be "a taxon with a rank-based name at species or infraspecific > rank", and of course I'd be fine with, say, ending the first sentence > with "a clade may be assigned species or infraspecific rank". > > Digging this up also reminded me that it's not called ICBN anymore. It's > now "International Code of Nomenclature of algae, plants and fungi", > assuming the 2012 Code has been printed at last. I'll look that up > tomorrow, and I'll look up if the change from "Bacteria" to > "Prokaryotes" is now official as well. > > The new Art. 21.3 comes with a note in the proposal: "[The last sentence > refers to ICZN Art. 11.4.]" Then why not just say so: "For names > governed by the ICZN, this practice must be followed throughout the > publication that establishes the name (ICZN Art. 11.4)." > > The first sentence of the new Art. 21.4 contains the phrase "may be > treated as the name of the species under this code, termed a species > uninomen". Given that this code doesn't govern species names, do we > really want to say there is such a thing as "the name of the species > under this code"? How about "may be treated as the _de facto_ name of > the species, termed a species uninomen"? > > Example 1 to Note 21.4B.1 lacks the year at the first opportunity, right > after the Note says the year is commonly cited under the ICZN. > > I'll interpret Note 21A.1 as allowing any agreement; thus, I'm looking > forward to *Discodorididae sandiegenses*! That should make some heads > explode! ;-) > > Finally, I proposed a new recommendation to deal with a pet peeve of > mine. It's not really on topic, and I should propose it to the > committees that make the rank-based codes (where of course I have much > less influence), but I think it should receive consideration anyway: > > "When establishing a new species name under the appropriate rank-based > code, the protologue should state which species concept the authors have > in mind, and it should include a description of the evidence indicating > that the new species fulfills that concept, even though the rank-based > codes have no such requirements or recommendations. Names for > infraspecific taxa should be handled analogously." > > If people started adhering to this, it would force people to think about > species instead of taking them for granted, counting them as a measure > of biodiversity, referring new specimens to species for implied reasons > that other authors wouldn't accept if they were explicit, and so on... >
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