I am having a really hard time to understand why we need to discuss or refer to species concept or even imply the value of a unified species concept when in fact we are dealing with nomenclatural issues. We are naming taxa = clades and whether people draw an analogy between these and 'species' should be none of our business. Nico On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:48 PM, de Queiroz, Kevin wrote: Yes, of course I'm aware of that issue. However, I still think it is more appropriate and useful to view those differences as criteria that exist within the context of a single general concept of species. I've used a cartographic analogy to describe this situation previously (see de Queiroz, 1999, The general lineage concept of species and the defining properties of the species category, p. 64-65): in the context of the single general species concept, the various properties that are responsible for the differences among traditional species definitions ("concepts") can be viewed as criteria for deciding which species to represent in a taxonomy that function analogously to criteria that are used to decide which population centers to represent on a map. See also O'Hara (1993, Systematic generalization, historical fate, and the species problem). In addition, I've argued in a different paper (de Queiroz, 2005, A unified concept of species and its consequences for the future of taxonomy) that we should not over-emphasize one or another species criterion (as implied in David M's suggestion that authors should state which species "concept" they have adopted in the protologue) but rather list ALL of the relevant properties that the species in question is inferred both to possess and not to possess. See the section "Current Taxonomic Conventions are Inadequate" (bottom p. 209 top p. 210) in the cited paper. On 3/17/13 2:35 PM, "David Marjanovic" < david.marjanovic at gmx.at <mailto: david.marjanovic at gmx.at >> wrote: Points taken, but... (I also don't think that most biologists really adopt different species concepts, though they tend to confuse operational criteria with concepts). Different criteria lead to different results. At our 2nd meeting (Yale 2006), somebody (Yannick Bertrand, I think) gave a presentation, saying that there are from 101 to 249 endemic bird species in Mexico, depending on what one means by "species". That's what I mean. _______________________________________________ CPN mailing list CPN at listserv.ohio.edu <mailto: CPN at listserv.ohio.edu > http://listserv.ohio.edu/mailman/listinfo/cpn _______________________________________________ CPN mailing list CPN at listserv.ohio.edu <mailto: CPN at listserv.ohio.edu > http://listserv.ohio.edu/mailman/listinfo/cpn <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Nico Cellinese, Ph.D. Assistant Curator, Botany & Informatics Joint Assistant Professor, Department of Biology Florida Museum of Natural History University of Florida 354 Dickinson Hall, PO Box 117800 Gainesville, FL 32611-7800, U.S.A. Tel. 352-273-1979 Fax 352-846-1861 http://cellinese.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserv.ohio.edu/pipermail/cpn/attachments/20130318/e12a61d5/attachment-0001.html
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