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I too vote Yes.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
George Sangster<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11-4-2018 om 08:11 schreef Graham,
Sean:<br>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jadoyle@ucdavis.edu">jadoyle@ucdavis.edu</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April-10-18 10:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cantino, Philip<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Committee on Phylogenetic Nomenclature; Max
Langer<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CPN] Revised rules on electronic
publication<br>
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<div>I vote yes.
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">Jim</div>
<div class="">James A. Doyle<br class="">
<div><br class="">
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<div class="">On Apr 2, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Cantino,
Philip <<a href="mailto:cantino@ohio.edu"
class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">cantino@ohio.edu</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;
line-break:after-white-space">
<div class="">Dear CPN members,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">It is time to return to the
proposed revision of the PhyloCode articles on
publication, which the CPN considered in
February and early March. �The subcommittee
that developed the proposal (Nico, Dick, Kevin
and myself) held a Skype conference on Friday
to discuss your comments. �We appreciate the
time and thought that all of you devoted to
this, and we carefully considered your
suggestions, some of which are reflected in
the attached revision.� The new Note 4.2.1
addresses issues about electronic publication
that were raised by many of you. �</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In the attached draft, the only
changes tracked are the new ones resulting
from your comments on the version I sent the
CPN on Feb. 6. ��</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">A few comments on the
suggestions we did not adopt:</p>
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Peer review:� Even
though it was a departure from the
rank-based codes, the CPN decided years ago
that peer review should be a requirement of
the PhyloCode.� The issue is one of quality
control.� Although it is not always possible
to determine easily if a publication was
peer-reviewed, having the requirement
reduces the likelihood of �taxonomic
vandalism� (exploiting the lack of a
peer-review requirement to publish names
indiscriminately, to �scoop� rivals, or to
sabotage the phylogenetic nomenclature
system).� We don�t envision checking every
name to be sure it was peer-reviewed;
however, the requirement gives the CPN a
basis to suppress works that are shown to be
flagrant violations.</p>
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Regarding Rec. 4.4B, it
was suggested that we mention CLOCKSS.�
CLOCKSS is a dark archive designed to be a
failsafe in case of a disaster and, as such,
is largely inaccessible to individuals.� By
contrast, our goal is to encourage
publication in outlets that are not only
archived but also provide broad
accessibility.� In addition, we deliberately
avoided listing specific repositories, which
may change over time.� On the other hand,
there is nothing in the recommendation to
discourage the use of CLOCKSS.</p>
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Regarding Note 7.2.2,
we retained the rule that material contained
only in electronic supplements is not
considered published as defined in this
code.� Our major concerns about electronic
supplements are that they are not as
carefully reviewed as the main body of
publications and that they may have less
permanence.</p>
<div class="">I think we could vote soon on
whether to adopt these revised rules, but
let�s wait a few days to give everyone a
chance for a final reading. �There is no
need to respond to this email unless there
is a point you want to bring up for further
consideration. �I will get back in touch
with you early next week and ask for a vote.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I am copying this message
separately to Max because the listserv
emails are not reaching him for some reason,
even though he is listed on my
administrative page as a subscriber. �Please
remember to copy your messages to his
addresses <<a
href="mailto:mclanger@ffclrp.usp.br"
class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">mclanger@ffclrp.usp.br</a>,
<a href="mailto:langer.mc@gmail.com"
class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">
langer.mc@gmail.com</a>> when you send
messages to the CPN listserv.�</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best regards,</div>
<div class="">Phil</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
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<br class="">
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<div class="">
<div class=""><span class="" style="orphans:2;
widows:2">Philip D. Cantino</span><br
class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Emeritus
Professor</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Department
of Environmental and Plant�Biology</span><br
class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Ohio
University</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Athens,
OH 45701-2979</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<br class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Phone:
(740) 593-1128</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Fax:
(740) 593-1130</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2"><a
href="mailto:cantino@ohio.edu" class=""
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">email:
cantino@ohio.edu</a></span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
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I too vote Yes.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
George Sangster<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 11-4-2018 om 08:11 schreef Graham,
Sean:<br>
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face="Tahoma" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> CPN
[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cpn-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu">cpn-bounces@listserv.ohio.edu</a>] on behalf of James Doyle
[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jadoyle@ucdavis.edu">jadoyle@ucdavis.edu</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April-10-18 10:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cantino, Philip<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Committee on Phylogenetic Nomenclature; Max
Langer<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CPN] Revised rules on electronic
publication<br>
</font><br>
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<div>I vote yes.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Jim</div>
<div class="">James A. Doyle<br class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Apr 2, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Cantino,
Philip <<a href="mailto:cantino@ohio.edu"
class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">cantino@ohio.edu</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;
line-break:after-white-space">
<div class="">Dear CPN members,</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">It is time to return to the
proposed revision of the PhyloCode articles on
publication, which the CPN considered in
February and early March. �The subcommittee
that developed the proposal (Nico, Dick, Kevin
and myself) held a Skype conference on Friday
to discuss your comments. �We appreciate the
time and thought that all of you devoted to
this, and we carefully considered your
suggestions, some of which are reflected in
the attached revision.� The new Note 4.2.1
addresses issues about electronic publication
that were raised by many of you. �</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In the attached draft, the only
changes tracked are the new ones resulting
from your comments on the version I sent the
CPN on Feb. 6. ��</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">A few comments on the
suggestions we did not adopt:</p>
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Peer review:� Even
though it was a departure from the
rank-based codes, the CPN decided years ago
that peer review should be a requirement of
the PhyloCode.� The issue is one of quality
control.� Although it is not always possible
to determine easily if a publication was
peer-reviewed, having the requirement
reduces the likelihood of �taxonomic
vandalism� (exploiting the lack of a
peer-review requirement to publish names
indiscriminately, to �scoop� rivals, or to
sabotage the phylogenetic nomenclature
system).� We don�t envision checking every
name to be sure it was peer-reviewed;
however, the requirement gives the CPN a
basis to suppress works that are shown to be
flagrant violations.</p>
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Regarding Rec. 4.4B, it
was suggested that we mention CLOCKSS.�
CLOCKSS is a dark archive designed to be a
failsafe in case of a disaster and, as such,
is largely inaccessible to individuals.� By
contrast, our goal is to encourage
publication in outlets that are not only
archived but also provide broad
accessibility.� In addition, we deliberately
avoided listing specific repositories, which
may change over time.� On the other hand,
there is nothing in the recommendation to
discourage the use of CLOCKSS.</p>
<div class=""><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Regarding Note 7.2.2,
we retained the rule that material contained
only in electronic supplements is not
considered published as defined in this
code.� Our major concerns about electronic
supplements are that they are not as
carefully reviewed as the main body of
publications and that they may have less
permanence.</p>
<div class="">I think we could vote soon on
whether to adopt these revised rules, but
let�s wait a few days to give everyone a
chance for a final reading. �There is no
need to respond to this email unless there
is a point you want to bring up for further
consideration. �I will get back in touch
with you early next week and ask for a vote.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I am copying this message
separately to Max because the listserv
emails are not reaching him for some reason,
even though he is listed on my
administrative page as a subscriber. �Please
remember to copy your messages to his
addresses <<a
href="mailto:mclanger@ffclrp.usp.br"
class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">mclanger@ffclrp.usp.br</a>,
<a href="mailto:langer.mc@gmail.com"
class="" target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">
langer.mc@gmail.com</a>> when you send
messages to the CPN listserv.�</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best regards,</div>
<div class="">Phil</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;
line-break:after-white-space">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class="" style="orphans:2;
widows:2">Philip D. Cantino</span><br
class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Emeritus
Professor</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Department
of Environmental and Plant�Biology</span><br
class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Ohio
University</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Athens,
OH 45701-2979</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<br class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Phone:
(740) 593-1128</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2">Fax:
(740) 593-1130</span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
<span class="" style="orphans:2; widows:2"><a
href="mailto:cantino@ohio.edu" class=""
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">email:
cantino@ohio.edu</a></span><br class=""
style="orphans:2; widows:2">
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