________________________________ NOTICE: This message was sent from outside Ohio University. Please use caution when clicking links or opening attachments in this message. ________________________________ I am in agreement with Willem, with the following addenda. "Clearing" the creek fully of animals could be a daunting task depending on depth, bottom topo, bank configuration, etc. Assuming it could be accomplished, and whereas this is a short duration activity, I'd recommend maintaining any extracted animals off site in a temperature-appropriate environment with aeration, preferably dark. A 55g Rubbermaid barrel with lid and aeration would hold several animals in a pinch. Water chillers are expensive but could be used to keep temperatures similar to ambient temperature in the creek. As Willem indicated, and particularly on the shoulder of the winter season, animals will be prone to moving about, despite not feeding yet, so could mozy back into the work area. Keeping them offsite for several weeks would at least assure those specific individuals don't succumb to dredging. For that matter, as the season progresses, animals not in the creek at commencement could become jeopardized as well as they begin spring dispersal. Regards, Brian Butler [Signature-Logo-Oxbow-Associates-200] Brian Butler | President & Principal Scientist Oxbow Associates, Inc. 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History of their presence here during hibernation should be the guide in determining if they use the creek. They may be difficult to detect in hibernation and would require an experienced terrapin "proguer" to find them. Attempting to remove the terrapins would be very unlikely to remove all of them resulting in mortality from the dredging. Any terrapins that were caught and recovered would not need to be reburied, but simply released, they will rebury on their own. However, they might home back to the creek where you removed them. They can still be active at these very low temperatures; they are just very slow. Check Haramis et al about collecting terrapins in the winter and post release survival. Let me know if you have additional questions. 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Please use caution when clicking links or opening attachments in this message. ________________________________ Hi all, I'm trying to draft a protocol to protect terrapins during a saltmarsh restoration with US Army Corps of Engineers in NYC. One question that came up was about construction in creek beds during the winter when terrapins are in torpor. One measure we are drafting relates to dredging work in creek beds. If this must happen in the winter (between Nov and April), we are directing that the area be surveyed prior to commencement of work with heavy equipment in order to make sure that there are no terrapins buried under the mud of a creek bed (we would poke under the surface to find individuals, as described in Brennessel). If terrapins are found, would it be ok to rebury them nearby in a similar environment to where they were found, or would it be better to take them to a wildlife rehab place until it is warmer and they can be rereleased to the same site? I would also welcome seeing any similar protocols that any of you may have drafted in the past. Thanks in advance for your guidance! Once I'm finished drafting the protocol, I would be happy to share it with you all. Best, -Georgina --- Georgina Cullman, PhD (she/her) Ecologist | Forestry, Horticulture, and Natural Resources T (212) 360-1432 C (917) 838-0710 E georgina.cullman at parks.nyc.gov <mailto: georgina.cullman at parks.nyc.gov > NYC Parks Arsenal North 1234 Fifth Avenue, Room 214 New York, NY 10029 nyc.gov/parks< https://csmail.nyc.gov/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx > nyc.gov/parks/treemap< https://csmail.nyc.gov/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://listserv.ohio.edu/pipermail/dtwg/attachments/20220323/fc0cf8b0/attachment-0001.html > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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